Submitted by acmfox on Mon, 02/06/2006 - 11:07pm

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>[acmfox] Welcome to our chat. Please obey the net etiquette while chatting: try to be pleasant and polite.

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[DaveK] Hi Anneliese.

[acmfox] Hi Dave!

[DaveK] How's the chat room working today?

[acmfox] Still have to fix the colors, I see.

[acmfox] Otherwise, I think it's ok.

[acmfox] How was your week?

[DaveK] I'm just coming off a five day cold. Sat. I spent on my back moaning.

[DaveK] And yours?

[acmfox] I'm sorry to hear that. I just got back from San Diego this morning. So I'm tired.

[DaveK] Oh yeah, a board meeting. How did that go?

[acmfox] It went very well. The strategic plan is nearing completion.

[DaveK] You have a plan? Doesn't sound like any company I've worked for in the last five years.

[acmfox] Not quite. But it should be finished in a few months. It's been a many-year process getting to this point.

[acmfox] It is critical to a non-profit's ability to raise funding.

[DaveK] Have you had a business plan?

[DaveK] It's critical to any busineses ability to raise money.

[acmfox] Not really, and that has been part of the problem.

[DaveK] Unless you get a business person in the company no one wants to write it.

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[acmfox] That's true. I'm trying to do one for my company and it isn't getting done.

[DaveK] HI Chris.

[acmfox] Hey CM!

[camidon] Evening "chat crew"

[DaveK] There are several books out there. Check your library. That's where I found my references.

[acmfox] Guess what? I got to go in a sea cave yesterday in La Jolla.

[camidon] Hey, cool!

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[DaveK] You can't see in a cave. it's dark.

[Elizabeth] hi there!

[DaveK] Hi Elizabeth

[Elizabeth] how was San Diego?

[acmfox] I even have one, I think. And my pal, the executive director of the chamber of commerce is helping me.

[camidon] I got to talk about tarantulas in caves to my coworkers today. Fun.

[camidon] Hi Elizabeth,

[acmfox] Hi Elizabeth!

[Elizabeth] lol CM!

[acmfox] San Diego was good. But I'm exhausted now.

[Elizabeth] I can sympathize. I'm wiped.

[acmfox] LOL Dave!

[acmfox] How was the visit with your folks, Elizabeth?

[Elizabeth] Good, but hard in some ways.

[Elizabeth] My dad's made a lot of progress, but he still has a ways to go.

[acmfox] Has he gotten any vision back?

[camidon] test

[Elizabeth] They finally took the trach and feeding tubes out, and he's talking, but no eyesight.

[acmfox] Bummer.

[acmfox] But talking is good.

[DaveK] Chris, good work on all those critiques. You're making me feel some pressure.

[Elizabeth] Talking is good, and this time Colin got to see him. I think having Colin there did Dad a lot of good.

[Elizabeth] same here. I just wish my work schedule would settle down.

[acmfox] I'm sure that it did.

[DaveK] Do they expect him to regain some sight?

[camidon] Way to keep going, Elizabeth. Stay positive.

[acmfox] Yep, I'm feeling the pressure too. And I have to requests to join in my email tonight.

[camidon] Dave, finally had some time to myself, so that helped.

[camidon] Anneliese, I'd like to request a critique spot (I'll email you too), I want to write another GenE story. I've fot the nugget of a story...

[Elizabeth] I don't think they expect him to regain his eyesight, Dave. Not at this stage.

[camidon] that's "got" not "fot"

[DaveK] That's too bad.

[acmfox] So far as I know, Chris, the queue is wide open. When I can get other aspects of my life settled, I think I'll submit something also.

[Elizabeth] how's the new workshop coming, Anneliese?

[camidon] Sounds good. I'll look at the calendar and suggest a date in my email, Anneliese.

[acmfox] It's coming along well. This past weekend while I was out, Jim installed his emergency exit,

[acmfox] so all that is left of the build-out is for me to finish the walls...one more coat of joint compound and then paint.

[camidon] Perhaps we can suggest another writing challenge, this one based around GenE?? Perhaps this might renew interest in the Wiki? <I haven't been to it in a while, but it's such a good resource.>

[acmfox] He'll be tweaking the space for months, but it's a useable workshop now.

[Elizabeth] good for him! I still need to run fire drills w/Colin. Cub Scout requirement.

[Elizabeth] Good for you. How's his eyesight been?

[acmfox] I think that's a great idea, Chris.

[acmfox] We have a check-up Wednesday, but I don't think there has been any change.

[acmfox] Outside of the writing challenge, what else can we do to get ourselves using the wiki again?

[camidon] Send a reminder to the group? Offer a Wiki instructional chat?

[camidon] Perhaps send these after the "new" members are added to the list.

[acmfox] That's not a bad idea.

[DaveK] Give the new members critique credits if they use the wiki.

[acmfox] I need, as a minimum, to get back to sending around a monthly newsletter again.

[camidon] I love the WIKI, also the postbooard, but when I'm busy, those are the things that drop off my radar screen first. Thus, why I haven't been to them in a long while..

[DaveK] Both need constant new entries to be interesting enough to visit.

[camidon] I agree, Dave.

[Elizabeth] I know I haven't been by there in a loooong time.

[acmfox] It's been ages since I've checked on the wiki. And I have an update or two to install there.

[camidon] That would help, Anneliese, especially for new members, Anneliese. If we keep hitting the group over the head with the postboard and WIKI site, if a couple of us make a few new posts, that might generate some interest.

[acmfox] Well, I'm beginning to see some free time opening up, so this group is definately going to see more of my attention.

[Elizabeth] I'm going to be working 7 days/week for at least the next month and a half, unfortunately.

[camidon] We need to fill the critique spots up too. Doesn't look so good to new members when the old members aren't submitting stories.

[acmfox] Yikes, Elizabeth! That's awful.

[DaveK] That sucks Elizabeth. I complain about 4 days a week.

[camidon] Anneliese, you mentioned Wordcrafter (I think) was interested in returning? Is that true?

[camidon] Elizabeth, is there anything we can do to help?

[acmfox] Yep. He sent me a note asking to be added to the distribution.

[Elizabeth] I should be okay to send out stories each week, but that'll be about all until late March or early April.

[camidon] As soon as he's added, send out a message to the group welcoming him back! That might reinvigorate a few of the "oldie" members.

[Elizabeth] I'm on the project with too little design and construction time, too few resources, and a psychotic manager.

[acmfox] Sounds like a plan, Chris.

[acmfox] You have my sympathies, Elizabeth. Don't let it make you crazy.

[acmfox] Also, I was thinking of putting together a bunch of old junk of mine. If there is nothing for the queue, Elizabeth, you can subject the group to that.

[DaveK] That sounds a bit like my project. Today we got some feedback that the designs they had us using for months were wrong.

[Elizabeth] For a while things were going badly enough that I was worried for my job. Luckily, my managers are understanding.

[camidon] We certainley understand, Elizabeth. You've got mucho mucho stuff going on. We're here to help with the group!

[Elizabeth] I appreciate it, guys. :)

[camidon] "Junk" Is that a literary term? Give yourself some credit, Anneliese! Many of us love reading you and Elizabeth's work.

[DaveK] Junk is what the literati use for my work

[camidon] Dave, let's to try to "freshen" up the bboard and Wiki sites with some new posts. Then, when a message goes out to the group, at least it will look like some recent activity, which might spark some others to participate. Maybe not, but all we can do is try.

[Elizabeth] You don't give yourself enough credit, Anneliese.

[DaveK] Elizabeth, did you see the Dilbet two Sunday's ago? About writing the software to write the requirements.

[DaveK] OK Chris. I'll at least match your posts.

[Elizabeth] Yes, I did. Laughed my head off. One of my co-workers posted it outside of his office.

[acmfox] One think I was thinking of using the wiki for was a personal journal or blog. Could we all commit time to make that kind of post from time to time?

[DaveK] Dilbert to just too close to reality sometimes.

[acmfox] It might only say, "I didn't have any time to write today," but that would be just fine.

[Elizabeth] I might be able to dredge a story idea out of this, eventually...a way for managers to get programmers working 24-7.

[DaveK] I should start one about how to get off your butt and sit on your buut and write.

[DaveK] I don't know the answer but I can start it.

[camidon] I'd be willing to try, Anneliese. I've never been good with journals though

[camidon] It might be cool if a bunch of us do it.

[acmfox] Neither am I. In fact, I'm absolutely terrible with journals.

[DaveK] Do we need a blog section?

[Elizabeth] I haven't been much good at journals either, but I could give it a shot.

[camidon] If we set up a whole section dedicated to this. I could see some others in the group interested.

[camidon] and if there were lots of email reminders about it, that would help too... Just like the chats every Monday too.

[acmfox] If you want to set it up as a blog rather than through the wiki, that is not a problem.

[DaveK] If you do that monthly newsletter you can comment on some of the better entries.

[acmfox] I've gotten pretty good with that kind of software. It might be time to upgrade the site overall.

[camidon] Anneliese, There's seems to be a problem with the bboard... Tried to access it, but couldn't.

[acmfox] Or at least praise the folks that makes entries.

[camidon] Error message: phpBB : Critical Error Could not get theme data for themes_id [2]

[acmfox] What theme were you using? When I upgraded the board, it blew away the themes. I reinstalled Chronicals, but might have missed something.

[DaveK] I'm using chronicles, it works for me.

[acmfox] I see you and dave on the board right now.

[camidon] Nope, not getting through. Don't have the chronicles theme. That error pops up when I do most anything, try to log in, sometimes when I just open the bboard.

[acmfox] I'm checking into it right now.

[camidon] Now I'm only getting that error.

[Elizabeth] I can't get into the bboard either. Says it doesn't recognize my name or password.

[acmfox] Try it again. I just installed the other theme.

[camidon] nope

[camidon] same error

[DaveK] I'll try getting off oan then on again.

[acmfox] Do you remember what your id was, Elizabeth?

[camidon] Anneliese, just another thing to poke around with during the week if you have time.

[DaveK] Still works for me.

[Elizabeth] I thought it was HOST WRTR SFWW. Is the bboard case-sensitive?

[camidon] Anyone want to email the chat to the group? See if it sparks anything?

[acmfox] it's HOST WPLC SFWW

[camidon] I've got to move along this evening to a warm and cozy locality--my bed.

[acmfox] Would you like to?

[Elizabeth] whoops. Shows how long it's been since I logged on. :)

[DaveK] There is a name like that Elizabeth

[Elizabeth] It logged me in, sort of. I got the following error: phpBB : Critical Error

[Elizabeth] same error message CM got.

[DaveK] Anneliese, can you set everyone to the chronicles look

[camidon] On another note, the WIKI seems to be fine--I can log into that. :)

[acmfox] When I look up the user profiles for you, they indicate Chronicles, which should be fine (it's what Dave and I are using).

[acmfox] But... there have been some nasties out there crashing things. (They trashed the chat room last week).

[acmfox] It's possible that the forum is also crippled.

[DaveK] I tried to do a post and ot failed. An SQL error : 1016 Can't open file: 'phpbb_search_wordlist.MYI' (errno: 144)

[camidon] Have a goodnight all. Elizabeth, my thoughts are with you and your family. Anneliese, submit something to the group! Dave, Write, damn you write, don't waste your talent!

[camidon] It's been fun, as it always is.

[DaveK] Bye Chris

[Elizabeth] good night, everybody! I'm going to try and get some sleep.

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[DaveK] Bye Elizabeth. ANd you too Anneliese see you next week.

[DaveK] Do you want me to stay on for debugging reasons?

[acmfox] I'm having some problems with the chat room.

[acmfox] I just reset Chris & Elizabeth's themes to subSilver, which is default.

[acmfox] That might fix the forum for them.

[acmfox] I don't know that we can do any more since they have gone.

[DaveK] Do you want me to try that? Can you post?

[acmfox] I'm going to try posting this chat.