Alien

camidon's picture

This has been a much maligned category. We need toss in some more movie discussion. Lots of scifi movies to choose from. So how bout starting with Alien?

In my opinion, a classic. A perfect blend of science fiction and horror. If one likes either of those genres, than this movie scores high marks.

It's one of those movies you can still watch today and feel that its technology and setting are not "dated". Okay, not TOO dated. It's not like most old scifi where you take one look and laugh your but off (no good examples coming to mind, Logan's Run maybe, Star Trek?)

Alien also had one of the most original Aliens ever. It's creation has spawned a whole new form of alien race. Sigourney Weaver was also one of the first, if not the first, major female lead in a scifi movie. Before then, most scifi women were flakey maidens-in-distress-syndrome, large breasts, can't think, must be saved. Then Weaver came a long and kicked some Alien but. Talk about a strong, female character. (Can anyone think of a scifi movie before Alien that had a major, strong, female lead). Leah from Star Wars maybe an exception, but Luke and Han still had to save her over and over again.

Alien is a classic in my book.

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Re:Alien

Agreed! Kind of started the modern sci fi horror genre, or at least it seems that way to me. The sense of isolation was perfect (like Halloween in space), and the mood and cameratography were excellent. What you couldn't see was more frightening than what you could.

I like dark and moody films when they are done well, like Batman and Dark City and Pitch Black, or some of the end sequences in Empire Strikes Back where they also threw in splashes of red (that's my favorite Star Wars movie).

I can't remember the name of the guy (Geiger?) who designed the Alien, but he is one twisted dude. He also did a ton of sketches for setting etc. for all the Alien movies, and they are very disturbing. I saw an interview with him. He thought creatures without eyes were more scary, and that was unique. Aliens are always supposed to have big eyes.

I liked the second movie as well. Instead of remaking the first, they made a different kind of movie, and it worked.

I'm not a complete idiot -- some parts are missing.

camidon's picture

Alien Again

Geez, Just go and spoil the list of movies I had on my list to talk about (see below). Laughing out loud

Seriously, though, Everything you said is right on in my mind. Gieger <sp> is a demented genious (didn't mention him early because I didn't want to try and spell his name. I like Alien 2 for the same reason you stated. They should have stopped there.

We have similar taste in movies, as: Dark City (much, much underated), Pitch Black, and Batman are all on my personal favorite list. Dark and moody movies are hard to pull off, and not usually high on movie studio's list of things to make.

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EmptyKube's picture

Alien revisited

I do love the movie, but some of the things that drive me crazy are
1)the spacehelmet lights are inside the helmets (unless my memory is off)
This would be like trying to drive with your lights on.
2) there were way too many dark, dripping corridors for a spaceship for my tastes.

3) they are on a spaceship. Easy answer to problem of devouring Alien, akin to the ending...bolt everything down, put the crew into spacesuits,
blow the hatches until everything not bolted and suited is vacated. End of movie:)

Whenever I watch I have to turn my logic circuits off...

Alien 2 was good. Didn't see any of the others.

Want to see the new Preditor VS Alien movie. That might be way cool
Mike

Re:Alien

> 1)the spacehelmet lights are inside the helmets (unless my memory is off)
> This would be like trying to drive with your lights on.

lol Mike. I remember that, I never noticed. Obviously they can't have their highly paid actors behind blackened faceplates.

That's like the movie cliche of having a beam of light fall across the actor's eyes while he/she is making a serious speech. Just about every movie does this, especially chick flicks. (Not many serious speeches in action flicks.)

I'm not a complete idiot -- some parts are missing.

DaveK's picture

Re:Alien

[quote]2) there were way too many dark, dripping corridors for a spaceship for my tastes.
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And how many space ships with man eating aliens have you lived on. I'll tell you the cleaning crew is the first to go.

The lights in the helmets always cracks me up. I wonder why the actors don't walk into things. Alien is a great movie. Even the sequel is great. But Alien 3 is not. 4 is good, actually quite good given that they killed off the main character at the end of 3.

camidon's picture

Light in the Face

The lights in the helmet thing seems a very Human mistake. Create a great movie, but then there's always that one little detail that the crew overlooks. Suddenly it becomes very funny.

I agree, Dave, 3 was a real piece of crap. I went into 4 not expecting much, but was pleseantly surprised. I enjoyed it and found the "resurrection" creative and believable.

Should we include a cleaning crew on OUR ship... Eye-wink

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